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Pointing out racism is not "race-baiting."  The problem of racism will not go away if we all stop seeing race.  How many of your problems go away when people ignore them?

Let's break down a simple, straightforward example of how "colorblindness" perpetuates racism, rather than helping to solve it.  Charge a black man and a white man with the same crime.  Put them both in court.  Prosecute them with the same degree of evidence.  The black man is more likely to be convicted than the white man.  But let's say they're both convicted.  Sentence them.  Statistically speaking, the black man will receive a harsher sentence for the same kind of crime carried out under the same conditions.

Does this make the judge and jury racist?  Depends on what you mean by the word.  If you mean, do they hate minorities, do they think of other groups of people as subhuman, are they consciously trying to oppress and disenfranchise people of different colors?  No.  Or at least, most of them aren't.  But just like a drink doesn't make you an alcoholic, you can commit racist actions, have racist thoughts, without being a racist in that sense.

Let's look at why.  Why are we more suspicious of black people than white people?  Why do we treat minorities worse when they are accused of the same acts with the same evidence against them?  For most people, rather than conscious bias, it's a subconscious thing.  We know that there are more black people in prison than white people.  Black people and white people alike report that black people seem more threatening and more suspicious to them, on average (maybe because more of them are convicts?  It's a vicious cycle).

But that's exactly why colorblindness hurts people.  If you don't think about and process the reactions you're having, you're never going to realize the source of this bias.  If you truly do not see color, then you are more likely to perpetuate the cycle of systemic and institutional racism without examining the cause of your actions or working to come to a balanced, rational conclusion.  You won't realize why you find the defendant more dangerous than his paler co-defendant.  You won't be able to stop it.

Which is why, when someone accuses someone else of race-baiting, or says someone played the race card, my default response is just to say "bullshit."  Because it is bullshit.  And you can only explain it so many times before it makes you too mad to have a useful conversation.

Thoughts?

Date: 2012-07-14 12:46 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] purgatory
More of a question based on your postings on racism and sexism. A lot of people say that being male makes one inherently sexist, and being white makes one inherently racist. That there's simply no way to get around it. No matter your alliances, you still feed into the systematic oppression of women and people of color.

So, as a white male, what do you feel about that thought?

Date: 2012-07-14 01:25 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] purgatory
A few of these miss the point of what I was asking, so I'm going to hone in on more of what I was inquiring. Because I see a lot of this, so pardon my hyperfocusing.

When you posted above saying that people who are white--a judge, a jury--who immediately give harsher judgement to a black defendant than they would a white defendant, that it doesn't make them blatantly racist, but they are still performing racist actions.

In this statement, we are declaring that these judges and juries, because they are white, are inherently inclined to be harsher towards people of color. So, it would have to apply to all of us white people, and extend to men, rich individuals or straight people, when looking to their polar opposites.

So, in the statement, "being a white male makes you inherently racist and sexist", it's not an accusation, right? It's simply a statement on what is because of what you are.

But if as a white person, you're not racist, then we can't extend that same thing to white individuals, right? Especially since people of color are also judges, police, jury, and tend to be found with the same bigotry (since we cannot call it racism when it's about a person of color in regards to another).

It's akin to men. Are all men inherently sexist in their behaviors, not just the benefits they accept from society? Or do we only consider them sexist on the benefits and accept they are not sexist when they speak over women, or try to slutshame us?

Keep in mind, I'm not saying you're racist, but I see this a lot, and you post a lot about desiring discussion on this, so I hope you understand!

Date: 2012-07-14 01:47 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] purgatory
I'm saying that you're stating that people are inherent in their actions as what they are (color, in the case of your original post), and not what they are given or what they benefit from, and that this is final. But you've come around again and said there are multiple ways to look at it, when asked for you to reflect on your own role in the world. You've basically said you're not racist in the same ways you've said the hyperbolic judge and jury are.

I inherently benefit as a white person, but suffer as a female. I am inherently racist in some ways, and despite actively doing what I can to keep myself in check, I am what I am. Sure, I don't think I'm actively racist! But I'm white, and therefore there are no multiple definitions when we look at it from the current social justice movement perspective.

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